Judas had no salvation to loose

Is Judas Iscariot an example of someone loosing salvation?

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John[Yochanan]6:64 "'But there are some of you who do not trust.' For Yeshua knew from the beginning who they were who did not trust, even who would betray Him.'"

John[Yochanan]6:70 "Yeshua answered them, 'Did I not choose you, the twelve? And one of you is {present tense} a devil.' 71 He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.'"

John[Yochanan]13:10 "Yeshua said to him, 'He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, BUT NOT ALL OF YOU.' 11 For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, "You are not all clean."

John[Yochanan]17:12 "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and NONE of them is lost EXCEPT the son of perdition [destruction], that the Scripture might be fulfilled." One of the passages in Scripture he is refering to is:

Psalm[Tehilim]41:9 "Even my own familiar friend in whom I confided, who ate my bread, has lifted up his heel against me." This is quoted in:

John[Yochanan]13:18 "I do not speak concerning all of you. I know whom I have chosen; but that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'He who eats bread with Me has lifted up his heel against Me.'"

When we place personal trust in Him it is accounted to us as righteousness {Genesis[B'resheyt]15:6}, we are then made clean in His sight. Judas Iscariot is called a devil and the son of perdition... in 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 the man commonly called the antichrist is also called 'son of perdition.' Because devils are unclean, Judas being a devil {John[Yochanan]6:70-71}is therefore revealed as being unclean in John[Yochanan]13:11. Because Judas is shown to be unclean it becomes clear that he hasn't been cleansed, which means he is not born again according to 1 John [Alef Yochanan] 1:7"But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Yeshua M'shiach[Christ] His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." and according to Ezekiel 36:25. The Scripture never out right says "Judas Iscariot was never born again," but neither does the Scripture out right say "Judas Iscariot lost his salvation;" However, as we can see, truth is clear when we let the Scripture interpret itself. Since Judas Iscariot was not born again and saved, then he had no salvation to loose. Regardless, it is dangerious to base our understanding of major teachings like spiritual salvation on assumptions or on a few passages which can be taken a different ways or are unclear left to themselves - [of course the meaning of a passage is much more clear when it is read and understood in context and when interpreted using the Scripture as a whole.] Concerning this aspect of salvation, the Scripture says many things out right, not vaguely, which make it clear that the FREE GIFT of salvation from the punishment of our sin in the lake of fire, once truely recieved, can never be loosed. Here are a few examples:

Psalm [Tehilim] 37:28 "For Yah'ueh loves justice, and does not forsake His set apart ones; They are preserved forever, but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off."

Psalm[Tehilim]31:23 "Oh, love Yah'ueh, all you His set apart ones! For Yah'ueh preserves the faithful, and fully repays the proud person."

He is the Author AND FINISHER of our faith:

Hebrews 12:2 "..looking unto Yeshua, the Author and Finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the All-powerful One."

Hebrews 5:9 "..He became the Author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him."

This obeying Him means to obey His gospel:

Romans 10:16 "But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, 'Yah'ueh, who has believed our report?'"

2 Thessalonians 1:8 "in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know the All-powerful One, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Master Yeshua M'shiach."

1 Peter [Alef Kefah]4:17 "For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of the All-powerful One; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of the All-powerful One?"

All who obey His gospel recieve eternal salvation. His gospel is based on what He Himself has done and we obey it by placing trust in Him. The gospel is written in Isaiah [Yeshiyahu] 52:13-53. It is the work that M'shiach [Christ] did while on earth which includes the shedding of His sinless blood unto death when recieving upon Himself the punishment all men but Himself deserve, His resurrection from the dead which is a seal and a confirmation of His work, and His appearing to men so that His work has witness. Hebrews 9:12 "Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption." The spiritual result of His paying the price of our sin by taking our punishment upon Himself in our place is forgivness of sins [wrong doings] and salvation from the punishment of that sin [wrong doing] to all who trust in Him.

An example of obeying His gospel is Ephesians 1:13.

Ephesians 1:11 "In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, 12 that we who first trusted in M'shiach[Christ] should be to the praise of His glory. 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory."

The gospel is the 'gospel of your salvation.' Ephesians 2:8-10 makes it clear that this salvation is not earned through our own works nor is it based on our own deeds. Therefore salvation is not based on our ability to be or to stay righteous, but on His unchanging rightousness and His unconditional promise. When we are saved from the punishment of our sin He becomes our righteousness; This is why He, M'shiach [Christ], is called Yah'ueh our righteousness: Jeremiah [Yeremiyahu] 23:5-6.

Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace [unmerited unearned favor] you have been saved through faith [trust], and that salvation is not of yourselves; it is the gift of the All-powerful One, 9 nota result of your own works, so that none should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in M'shiach[Christ] Yeshua for good works, which the All-powerful One prepared beforehand that we should walk in them."

Titus 3:4 "But when the kindness and the love of All-powerful One our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, butaccording to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Yeshua M'shiach [Christ] our Savior,."

If someone wants to say the 'washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit' refers to rightous act of being immersed [baptized] in water according to the command of Yeshua,.. then we must delete from this same passage, 'NOT by works of righteousness which we have done..' Obeying His command to be immersed in water is a righteous work. And also, if you want the 'washing of regeneration' to refer to obeying the command to be immersed, then we must also delete 1 Corinthians 1:14-17, and many other passages... why, we might as well throw away the whole volume of Scripture, since it proclaims salvation by His grace through faith apart from works.

1 Corinthians 1:14 "I thank the All-powerful One that I immersed none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 lest anyone should say that I had immsered in my own name. 16 Yes, I also immersed the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I immersed any other. 17 For M'shiach did not send me to immerse, BUT to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of M'shiach should be made of no
effect."

The apostle Paul makes a crystal clear separation between the gospel of our salvation and immersion in water [baptism].
Instead the 'washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit' is the SAME thing Yeshua was speaking of John [Yochanan] 3:5 "Yeshua answered, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of the All-powerful One. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit...' 9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him,'How can these things be?' 10 Yeshua answered and said to him, 'Are you, the teacher of Yisrael, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness.'"
The being 'born of water' in this passage is not speaking of obeying the command to be immersed in water. Some take it to mean that being born of water means the natural birth... the first birth, of the flesh; this understanding is more biblical than thinking water baptism is required for salvation; However, notice Yeshua said, 'Are you, the teacher of Yisrael, and do not know these things?' This shows that Yeshua expected Nicodemus to understand what He meant by being born of water and Spirit; For this reason I think an even more biblical understanding of this passage is to look at it in light of the scripture Nicodemus had at the time:
Ezekiel 36:25 "Then I [the Almighty] will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them." First of all it should jump out at you that it says SPRINKLE. Since when does immersed equal sprinkled? Never. Now notice, the passage says the Almighty will be the one who SPRINKLES clean water on those who will be made clean [something Judas Iscariot was not, which also proves he was not saved and born again.] It does not say a preacher will sprinkle you and by that you will be made clean. It does not say the pope, a bishop, a catholic priest, or any mere human will sprinkle you and you will be made clean. NO NO NO! It says HE is the one who does it, and it should be obvious that this is speaking symbolically of an inner cleansing done by the Holy Spirit, NOT by literal water. We could go on and on proving this false belief wrong.. maybe that will be a future article.

Indeed it may be said that this is an excuse for unrighteousness; However even though our eternal salvation [Isaiah 4:17; Hebrews 5:9, 9:12, 9:15] is not based on our righteousness, we are still commanded to be rightous, and since IF we are saved and are His sheep and we shall NEVER perish then as a result we shall indeed follow Him according to John[Yochanan]10:27-30 because according to Ezekiel 36:27 His Spirit will cause us to walk in His statues and keep His judgments, NOT as a basis for recieving His Spirit, but rather as a RESULT. So for someone to use salvation by grace ALONE as an excuse for his/her continual and habitual unrighteousness then this person is only showing that he/she is likely not saved in the first place, because according to Scripture, even though the person may still sin after being saved {1 John [Yochanan] 1:8}, the person will follow the Shepherd and his/her life will not be in a steady continual and habitually sinful state. There will be a process of change, for behold!: "..if anyone is in M'shiach, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." - 2 Corinthians 5:17.

John[Yochanan]10:26-30 "But you do not trust, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall any snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and none is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. 30I and My Father are one."

But, you say, Matthew[Mattityahu]7:22-23 says,
"Many will say to Me in that day, "Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'"

Does this mean some who trusted and were saved will loose their salvation and not be allowed in the Kingdom of Heaven?
Not at all! Because if those in Matthew [Mattityahu] 7:23 had ever really trusted and therefore been saved, then Yeshua would have known them according to John [Yochanan] 10:26-27, because according to this passage Yeshua knows those who trust in Him, but in Matthew [Mattityahu] 7:23Yeshua says to these people, "I NEVER knew you." If they had ever trusted then Yeshua would have known them, and therefore would have been lieing here, but of course if He had lied then He would have sinned and if He had sinned then His death was worthless, and if His death was worthless then He was not really M'shiach[Christ]. This is a true logical implication of believing Matthew [Mattityahu] 7:22-23teaches one can loose salvation, but hallelu Yah! it doesn't teach this at all, but rather it confirms that those who will be rejected were NEVER saved in the first place.

Therefore I leave these words of assurance given to true believers by the Holy Spirit of the Most HIGH through the hand of the apostle Paul: "being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will carry it on to completion unto the Day of Yeshua M'shiach [Christ]; 7 just as it is right for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart, inasmuch as both in my chains and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel, you all are partakers with me of grace [unmerited unearned favor]." -Philippians 1:6-7.

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Yeshua: One of the Hebrew forms of the name commonly rendered in English as Jesus. This shortened form simply means salvation and-or deliverance; the longer form which is Yah'ushua, is made of a shortened form of the Name Yah'ueh, and a shortened form of the Hebrew word for salvation which is yeshuah. So this longer form of the name Yeshua means Yahu [the Creator's Name] salvation [or] deliverance.

Yah'ueh: the 4 letter Hebrew name of the Creator [yud heh vua heh or YHVH-YHWH]; with a meaning consisting
of the idea of self existant, self sustaining, and eternal one,.. without beginning or end. From 'he who was, who is,
and who is to come.'

M'shiach: Transliterated into English as Moshiach, Meshiach, Mashiach, Meshiah, Messiah, etc... thought to mean Anointed One, translated into Greek as Christos, and from it's Greek form into English as Christ. In common language it refers to the one distinct Anointed One who was promised to come into the world through the nation Israel, through the Tribe of Yehudah, by whom the Creator is to redeem mankind, and the world.

Yehudah: Judah; meaning praised. Pronounced as Yehudah in Hebrew. It is the name of one of the 12 sons of Yakov [Jacob] in the Bible through whom the tribe of Judah arose, and it is through the tribe of Judah that M'shiach came.
Judas is a Greek form of the name Judah. The apostle who of the first 12 who betrayed Yeshua concerning whose salvation this page is about.